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Написано DT | Thu, May 24 at 10:20pm:

В ответ на: Re: поправка posted by Bell on Thu, May 24 at 08:55am:

: Этого я не знал. А что известно о его системах и
: результатах? По рассуждениям кажется, что опытный
: человек, но чего-то не договаривает.

по торговле акциями в сессию, когда предпоследний раз понизили ставку.
Все лонги были открыты за 15-30 мин перед сообщением.
.........
my not so perfect sp system pulled out about 50K from
current 30 min sp on 1 lot
with approximately 80% winners and
average winner more than loser.
this is just about as close to the best
theoretical solution as you can get.
it is very unlikely that you can beat this strategy
if you trade on your own.
the machine is much better at making proper
decisions at certain tasks
than human does. it's funny because
we build the machines but the machine is
better than us... but we built it
so that it can do it better than we can.
so there is no contradiction there. we build trading
systems so that those can help us with what
we can't do well... basically nailing the tops and bottoms
as best as we can and making as little mistakes as
possible or correcting those mistakes the best way
possible... as simple as that, conceptually.
a machine is better at this task unless you
control the market.

the interesting thing is that given the math behind
it which is complicated but not too complicated,
one could come
up with the math solution a couple hundred years
ago because then we already had the math for it.
one could take an arbitrary curve and try to
mathematically nail those price turns as best
as one could. that's all there is to it.

given the current variables that we have access to namely
price curve, volume and that's about it, there are
theoretical limitation of what a system can do given
that we only have one or two variables which are not
the ones that we would like to have in the first place.
finding the right math for it and finding those limitations
is the solution.

the ideal math solution is when we know all variables
such as supply and demand, future profit loss expectations, etc...
it does not exist and never will in financial markets.
so there is no holy
grail in a way, but there is the best grail which is closest
to the holy grail that you can find :-)
the process behind the price discovery for example is known
but some vars are missing in real time.
we simply have no and will not have
access to those even some 100 whatever years from now...

so it is pretty hard indeed to build a great system.
it is tough task for our mind that we call
the search for the holy grail of trading.
but it is possible. i'd say given the current state
of things in trading, a system can do about 60-85%
winners with ave winner larger than loser depending
on the level of noise, volatility, trendingness and
predictabilty
in a particular price curve on a particular time frame
without the need for optimization.
just has to be done right.

i hope i shed some light on this fascinating subject.
take it as pointers without the math.


Все ответы
вопрос Петровичу - малоопытный on Fri, May 18 at 06:43am
  Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Fri, May 18 at 08:14am
    Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Sat, May 19 at 03:00am
      Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Sun, May 20 at 05:52am
        Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Sun, May 20 at 1:56pm
          Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Mon, May 21 at 05:58am
            Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Mon, May 21 at 7:18pm
              Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Tue, May 22 at 11:04am
                Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Tue, May 22 at 8:11pm
    Re: вопрос Петровичу - малоопытный on Fri, May 18 at 11:20am
      Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Fri, May 18 at 11:37am
        Петровичу, родился... - левша on Sat, May 19 at 08:19am
          Re: Петровичу, родился... - Петrович on Sun, May 20 at 05:31am
            Re: Петровичу, родился... - левша on Sun, May 20 at 4:09pm
              Re: с потолка - Иван FXS on Mon, May 21 at 04:06am
                Re: бэктестинг - левша on Mon, May 21 at 05:05am
        Re: вопрос Петровичу - малоопытный on Fri, May 18 at 12:07am
          Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Fri, May 18 at 12:44am
            Re: вопрос Петровичу - VIVA on Sun, May 20 at 06:18am
              Re: вопрос Петровичу 10 k не безнадежно. - ИИндекс on Mon, May 21 at 07:43am
              Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Mon, May 21 at 06:36am
                Маленький вопрос к Петровичу - Леонид on Thu, May 24 at 09:30am
                  Re: Маленький вопрос к Петровичу - Bell on Fri, May 25 at 10:58am
                  Depth of market - DMTR on Thu, May 24 at 10:09am
                    Re: Depth of market - Леонид on Thu, May 24 at 10:34am
                      Re: Depth of market - DMTR on Thu, May 24 at 11:18am
                        Re: Depth of market - Влад Бычков on Thu, May 24 at 12:40am
                          Re: Depth of market - DMTR on Thu, May 24 at 2:19pm
                            Re: Depth of market - Леонид on Fri, May 25 at 05:39am
                              Re: Depth of market - DMTR on Fri, May 25 at 06:16am
                  Re: Маленький вопрос к Петровичу - Петrович on Thu, May 24 at 09:47am
                Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Tue, May 22 at 8:44pm
                  Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Wed, May 23 at 04:05am
                    Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Wed, May 23 at 11:31am
                      Re: поделитесь, пожалуйста, ссылкой ... - Иван FXS on Thu, May 24 at 02:20am
                        ;-) спасибо - разобрался сам (-) - Иван FXS on Thu, May 24 at 05:01am
                      Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Wed, May 23 at 3:46pm
                        Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Wed, May 23 at 5:08pm
                          поправка - DT on Thu, May 24 at 04:47am
                            Re: поправка - Bell on Thu, May 24 at 08:55am
                              Он приводил принты (+) - DT on Thu, May 24 at 10:20pm
                                Re: Он приводил принты (+) - Bell on Fri, May 25 at 5:26pm
                                  Re: Он приводил принты (+) - DT on Sat, May 26 at 03:38am
                                Re: перечитал внимательно ... - Иван FXS on Fri, May 25 at 11:16am
                                Re: Он приводил принты (+) - Сг on Thu, May 24 at 11:42pm
                                  Re: Он приводил принты (+) - DT on Fri, May 25 at 05:26am
                                  Re: had-то мы had ;-) - Иван FXS on Fri, May 25 at 03:16am
                                    Re: had-то мы had ;-) - DMTR on Fri, May 25 at 03:44am
                                      Дим, не по адресу - DT on Fri, May 25 at 05:19am
                                        Re: Дим, не по адресу - DMTR on Fri, May 25 at 06:12am
                                          Re: Дим, не по адресу - DT on Fri, May 25 at 07:40am
                                            Ссылочку, плиз? - Strelok on Fri, May 25 at 08:31am
                                              pls(+) - Urmas on Fri, May 25 at 08:37am
                                                Все оказалось так просто. Спасибо большое. (-) - Strelok on Fri, May 25 at 08:51am
                          Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Thu, May 24 at 04:44am
                            Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Thu, May 24 at 08:33am
                              Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Thu, May 24 at 09:08am
                                Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Thu, May 24 at 10:01am
                                  Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Thu, May 24 at 10:36am
                              Как человек, знающий шахматы не понаслышке, ... - DMTR on Thu, May 24 at 08:55am
                                Re: Как человек, знающий шахматы не понаслышке, ... - Bell on Thu, May 24 at 09:12am
                                  Re: Как человек, знающий шахматы не понаслышке, ... - DMTR on Thu, May 24 at 09:33am
                                    Re: Как человек, знающий шахматы не понаслышке, ... - Реплика из зала on Thu, May 24 at 11:27am
                                      Давайте без наездов, надоело уже... - DMTR on Thu, May 24 at 11:45am
                                        Re: Давайте без наездов, надоело уже... - Сторонний on Thu, May 24 at 1:47pm
                Re: вопрос Петровичу - VIVA on Tue, May 22 at 11:24am
                  Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Tue, May 22 at 12:16am
                    Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Tue, May 22 at 8:49pm
                Re: :( из-под обломков... - левша on Mon, May 21 at 11:52am
                  Re: :( из-под обломков... - Петrович on Mon, May 21 at 12:17am
                    Re: :( из-под обломков...усреднение? - левша on Mon, May 21 at 12:53am
                      Re: :( из-под обломков...усреднение? - Петrович on Mon, May 21 at 1:03pm
                        Re: :( из-под обломков...усреднение? - левша on Mon, May 21 at 3:34pm
        Re: вопрос Петровичу - Влад Бычков on Fri, May 18 at 12:02am
          Re: вопрос Петровичу - малоопытный on Fri, May 18 at 12:27am
            Re: вопрос Петровичу - Влад Бычков on Fri, May 18 at 1:10pm


 




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