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DT | Thu, May 24 at 10:20pm:
В ответ на: Re: поправка posted by Bell on Thu, May 24 at 08:55am:
: Этого я не знал. А что известно о его системах и : результатах? По рассуждениям кажется, что опытный : человек, но чего-то не договаривает.по торговле акциями в сессию, когда предпоследний раз понизили ставку. Все лонги были открыты за 15-30 мин перед сообщением. ......... my not so perfect sp system pulled out about 50K from current 30 min sp on 1 lot with approximately 80% winners and average winner more than loser. this is just about as close to the best theoretical solution as you can get. it is very unlikely that you can beat this strategy if you trade on your own. the machine is much better at making proper decisions at certain tasks than human does. it's funny because we build the machines but the machine is better than us... but we built it so that it can do it better than we can. so there is no contradiction there. we build trading systems so that those can help us with what we can't do well... basically nailing the tops and bottoms as best as we can and making as little mistakes as possible or correcting those mistakes the best way possible... as simple as that, conceptually. a machine is better at this task unless you control the market. the interesting thing is that given the math behind it which is complicated but not too complicated, one could come up with the math solution a couple hundred years ago because then we already had the math for it. one could take an arbitrary curve and try to mathematically nail those price turns as best as one could. that's all there is to it. given the current variables that we have access to namely price curve, volume and that's about it, there are theoretical limitation of what a system can do given that we only have one or two variables which are not the ones that we would like to have in the first place. finding the right math for it and finding those limitations is the solution. the ideal math solution is when we know all variables such as supply and demand, future profit loss expectations, etc... it does not exist and never will in financial markets. so there is no holy grail in a way, but there is the best grail which is closest to the holy grail that you can find :-) the process behind the price discovery for example is known but some vars are missing in real time. we simply have no and will not have access to those even some 100 whatever years from now... so it is pretty hard indeed to build a great system. it is tough task for our mind that we call the search for the holy grail of trading. but it is possible. i'd say given the current state of things in trading, a system can do about 60-85% winners with ave winner larger than loser depending on the level of noise, volatility, trendingness and predictabilty in a particular price curve on a particular time frame without the need for optimization. just has to be done right. i hope i shed some light on this fascinating subject. take it as pointers without the math.
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вопрос Петровичу - малоопытный on Fri, May 18 at 06:43am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Fri, May 18 at 08:14am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Sat, May 19 at 03:00am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Sun, May 20 at 05:52am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Sun, May 20 at 1:56pm
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Mon, May 21 at 05:58am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Mon, May 21 at 7:18pm
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Tue, May 22 at 11:04am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Tue, May 22 at 8:11pm
Re: вопрос Петровичу - малоопытный on Fri, May 18 at 11:20am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Fri, May 18 at 11:37am
Петровичу, родился... - левша on Sat, May 19 at 08:19am
Re: Петровичу, родился... - Петrович on Sun, May 20 at 05:31am
Re: Петровичу, родился... - левша on Sun, May 20 at 4:09pm
Re: с потолка - Иван FXS on Mon, May 21 at 04:06am
Re: бэктестинг - левша on Mon, May 21 at 05:05am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - малоопытный on Fri, May 18 at 12:07am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Fri, May 18 at 12:44am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - VIVA on Sun, May 20 at 06:18am
Re: вопрос Петровичу 10 k не безнадежно. - ИИндекс on Mon, May 21 at 07:43am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Mon, May 21 at 06:36am
Маленький вопрос к Петровичу - Леонид on Thu, May 24 at 09:30am
Re: Маленький вопрос к Петровичу - Bell on Fri, May 25 at 10:58am
Depth of market - DMTR on Thu, May 24 at 10:09am
Re: Depth of market - Леонид on Thu, May 24 at 10:34am
Re: Depth of market - DMTR on Thu, May 24 at 11:18am
Re: Depth of market - Влад Бычков on Thu, May 24 at 12:40am
Re: Depth of market - DMTR on Thu, May 24 at 2:19pm
Re: Depth of market - Леонид on Fri, May 25 at 05:39am
Re: Depth of market - DMTR on Fri, May 25 at 06:16am
Re: Маленький вопрос к Петровичу - Петrович on Thu, May 24 at 09:47am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Tue, May 22 at 8:44pm
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Wed, May 23 at 04:05am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Wed, May 23 at 11:31am
Re: поделитесь, пожалуйста, ссылкой ... - Иван FXS on Thu, May 24 at 02:20am
;-) спасибо - разобрался сам (-) - Иван FXS on Thu, May 24 at 05:01am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Wed, May 23 at 3:46pm
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Wed, May 23 at 5:08pm
поправка - DT on Thu, May 24 at 04:47am
Re: поправка - Bell on Thu, May 24 at 08:55am
Он приводил принты (+) - DT on Thu, May 24 at 10:20pm
Re: Он приводил принты (+) - Bell on Fri, May 25 at 5:26pm
Re: Он приводил принты (+) - DT on Sat, May 26 at 03:38am
Re: перечитал внимательно ... - Иван FXS on Fri, May 25 at 11:16am
Re: Он приводил принты (+) - Сг on Thu, May 24 at 11:42pm
Re: Он приводил принты (+) - DT on Fri, May 25 at 05:26am
Re: had-то мы had ;-) - Иван FXS on Fri, May 25 at 03:16am
Re: had-то мы had ;-) - DMTR on Fri, May 25 at 03:44am
Дим, не по адресу - DT on Fri, May 25 at 05:19am
Re: Дим, не по адресу - DMTR on Fri, May 25 at 06:12am
Re: Дим, не по адресу - DT on Fri, May 25 at 07:40am
Ссылочку, плиз? - Strelok on Fri, May 25 at 08:31am
pls(+) - Urmas on Fri, May 25 at 08:37am
Все оказалось так просто. Спасибо большое. (-) - Strelok on Fri, May 25 at 08:51am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Thu, May 24 at 04:44am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Thu, May 24 at 08:33am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Thu, May 24 at 09:08am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Thu, May 24 at 10:01am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Thu, May 24 at 10:36am
Как человек, знающий шахматы не понаслышке, ... - DMTR on Thu, May 24 at 08:55am
Re: Как человек, знающий шахматы не понаслышке, ... - Bell on Thu, May 24 at 09:12am
Re: Как человек, знающий шахматы не понаслышке, ... - DMTR on Thu, May 24 at 09:33am
Re: Как человек, знающий шахматы не понаслышке, ... - Реплика из зала on Thu, May 24 at 11:27am
Давайте без наездов, надоело уже... - DMTR on Thu, May 24 at 11:45am
Re: Давайте без наездов, надоело уже... - Сторонний on Thu, May 24 at 1:47pm
Re: вопрос Петровичу - VIVA on Tue, May 22 at 11:24am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Петrович on Tue, May 22 at 12:16am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Bell on Tue, May 22 at 8:49pm
Re: :( из-под обломков... - левша on Mon, May 21 at 11:52am
Re: :( из-под обломков... - Петrович on Mon, May 21 at 12:17am
Re: :( из-под обломков...усреднение? - левша on Mon, May 21 at 12:53am
Re: :( из-под обломков...усреднение? - Петrович on Mon, May 21 at 1:03pm
Re: :( из-под обломков...усреднение? - левша on Mon, May 21 at 3:34pm
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Влад Бычков on Fri, May 18 at 12:02am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - малоопытный on Fri, May 18 at 12:27am
Re: вопрос Петровичу - Влад Бычков on Fri, May 18 at 1:10pm
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