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и чего спорим :-) наверное хотца



Написано Сг | Thu, Apr 19 at 01:21am:

В ответ на: Re: про шорты и про брокеров posted by Bell on Wed, Apr 18 at 06:31am:

Bell говорит, что,
: Не-а, плохие они рыбоводы. И ваше с ними
: представление о рынке как о месте, где можно
: "нагреть всю планету" о многом говорит.
Саша, это не представление; это уже свершивийся факт; если доллар покупают, значит это нужно его продавцу :-)
ну кто выиграл от того, что два года деньги текли в Штаты?
Европа? Япония? ну кто кроме них самих-то?

: В первую очередь - о непонимании, для чего
: существует рынок и что им в итоге движет.
: Вера в great fool вообще характерна для известной части
: институциональной Америки, вот только кислые они
: какие-то в последнее время ;-)
но вот багче стали и сильно; это тоже не факт? :-))

: То иск, то class
: action, то сокращение трейдеров, то на джанках
: прос..ли, то в -70% на стоках, то просто
: разорились и вышли на пенсию зарабатывать
: мемуарами. Вообще, очччень показательно, когда
: находятся дядечки, разъясняющие публике, какие они
: хитрые эти институты и как всех нагрели и тут же
: предлагающие свои услуги по облапошиванию ИХ (по
: своим представлениям) рынка.
брр ...
что-то очень много намешано в одном абзаце;
и уровень вальяжности зашкалил для логичного разбирательства,
как мне показалось;
ответь на простой вопрос: кто выиграл от бума и провала за посление два года,
тогда можно будет продолжить дальше;

: : ну и как бы не обыгрывали народ в казино - ну все
: : равно не зарастет туда народная тропа; ну никак не
: : зарастет; и потому что людьми движет жажда легкой наживы,
: : и потому что пенсионные деньги девать-то все равно
: : некуда, ну и еще ...
:
: Хехе. Чтобы такое утверждать, надо хотя бы иметь
: представление о текущем состоянии пенсионных счетов.
специально не интересовался, и про пенс.планы - это только было как часть общего неубывающего потока и для примера;
но думаю, что мои знакомые - это вполне представиельный срез американского общества;
могу и ошибаться, конечно;
никто ничего не сделал со своими пенс.планами: как отчисляли деньги, так и отсчиляют,
и будут отчислять; и в консервативные фонды начинают перераспределять средства перед пенсией, а до этого держат в агрессивных;
многие просто не интересуются уже их состоянием чаще раза в год;

Успехов!
Сг


Все ответы
мрачности на светлом фоне - Сг on Sun, Apr 15 at 11:13am
  Re: мрачности на светлом фоне - VIVA on Mon, Apr 16 at 06:43am
  Ай да Моцарт, ай да сукин сын - Пушкин on Sun, Apr 15 at 4:58pm
    Re: Ай да Моцарт, ай да сукин сын - Очевидец on Sun, Apr 15 at 6:23pm
      Re: эк, вас, робяты, унесло-то -) - Сг on Mon, Apr 16 at 02:24am
        Re: Спустим все же на землю - Игорь on Mon, Apr 16 at 4:15pm
          Re: Спустим все же на землю - Петrович on Tue, Apr 17 at 05:54am
            Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Tue, Apr 17 at 06:24am
              Re: Спустим все же на землю - Петrович on Tue, Apr 17 at 07:17am
                Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Tue, Apr 17 at 08:14am
                  Re: Спустим все же на землю - Dmtr on Wed, Apr 18 at 05:15am
                    Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Wed, Apr 18 at 07:25am
                      Re: Спустим все же на землю - Dmtr on Wed, Apr 18 at 09:08am
                        Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Wed, Apr 18 at 5:34pm
                          Re: Спустим все же на землю - Dmtr on Thu, Apr 19 at 02:43am
                  про шорты и про брокеров - Сг on Wed, Apr 18 at 01:17am
                    Re: про шорты и про брокеров - Bell on Wed, Apr 18 at 06:31am
                      и чего спорим :-) наверное хотца - Сг on Thu, Apr 19 at 01:21am
                        Re: и чего спорим :-) наверное хотца - Bell on Thu, Apr 19 at 06:38am
          Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Mon, Apr 16 at 8:31pm
            волатильность и аналитика - Сг on Wed, Apr 18 at 01:42am
              Re: волатильность и аналитика - Bell on Wed, Apr 18 at 05:48am
            Re: Спустим все же на землю - Yug on Tue, Apr 17 at 04:58am
              просто - Сг on Wed, Apr 18 at 01:24am
              Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Tue, Apr 17 at 05:12am
                жаль что на остальные вопросы ответов нет (-) - Yug on Tue, Apr 17 at 08:00am
                  Re: посмотрите, напр. в архиве (+) - Bell on Tue, Apr 17 at 1:21pm
                    Re: На землю спустились - что видим? - Игорь on Wed, Apr 18 at 11:36am
                      Игорю - Сг on Thu, Apr 19 at 01:44am
                        Re: Следите за институционалами - Игорь on Fri, Apr 20 at 11:07am
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Игорь - Fri Apr 20 11:07:22 2001 on 987779242
                          Re: Следите за институционалами - малоопытный on Fri, Apr 20 at 11:28am
                            малоопытному - Сг on Sun, Apr 22 at 02:34am


 




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