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Написано Сг | Wed, Apr 18 at 01:42am:

В ответ на: Re: Спустим все же на землю posted by Bell on Mon, Apr 16 at 8:31pm:

Bell говорит, что,
: Так что я надеюсь, что рынок станет
: поспокойней, почище и менее истеричным.
не станет, к сожалению; хотя бы потому, что рынок раскачали так,
что по законам колебательных систем время успокоения - год-два;
и последние дни этому только хорошее подтверждение;
так что пристегните ремни - впереди все еще истеричные времена

: Что касается текущей
: ситуации, рынок действительно развернулся, как и
: предполагали пару-тройку недель назад те, кто
: что-то смыслит....
: Многие из тех, к чьему мнению
: я прислушиваюсь, из основных сценариев сейчас
: рассматривают не столько сильный рост, сколько
: попытку ретеста последнего лоу в обозримом времени
: (от 1 недели до 2-х месяцев).
вот какие мысли возникли при прочтении этих двух фраз:
как бы такой принцип неопределенности в применении к работе аналитика:
чем точнее аналитик предсказывает, что произойдет, тем больше неточность в определении момента;
чем точнее определен момент, тем больше неопределенность в предсказании,
что именно :-)

и мне кажется, что приведенные выше формулировки - это прекрасно подтверждают;
можно было предположить разворот - можно, конечно; только вот когда?
можно предположить ретест - можно, только вот через 1-8 недель;
(кстати, можно предположить и другой сценарий: ретеста не будет; будет либо откат на "не до дна",
либо откат с пробитием этого самого дна и походом дальше; только вот когда? :-);

но что толку-то? как на такую аналитику опираться-то?
не возникает такого вопроса?
вот сейчас:
как долго держать лонг?
входить в шорт при развороте вниз или нет?
покупать на дне или нет?
что делать-то?

это все написано без иронии и сарказма, даже без прикола :-)
и в существование людей, которые постигли суть происходящего - верю вполне;

спасибо, Саша, просто старые мысли всплыли при прочтении

Успехов в работе!
Сг


Все ответы
мрачности на светлом фоне - Сг on Sun, Apr 15 at 11:13am
  Re: мрачности на светлом фоне - VIVA on Mon, Apr 16 at 06:43am
  Ай да Моцарт, ай да сукин сын - Пушкин on Sun, Apr 15 at 4:58pm
    Re: Ай да Моцарт, ай да сукин сын - Очевидец on Sun, Apr 15 at 6:23pm
      Re: эк, вас, робяты, унесло-то -) - Сг on Mon, Apr 16 at 02:24am
        Re: Спустим все же на землю - Игорь on Mon, Apr 16 at 4:15pm
          Re: Спустим все же на землю - Петrович on Tue, Apr 17 at 05:54am
            Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Tue, Apr 17 at 06:24am
              Re: Спустим все же на землю - Петrович on Tue, Apr 17 at 07:17am
                Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Tue, Apr 17 at 08:14am
                  Re: Спустим все же на землю - Dmtr on Wed, Apr 18 at 05:15am
                    Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Wed, Apr 18 at 07:25am
                      Re: Спустим все же на землю - Dmtr on Wed, Apr 18 at 09:08am
                        Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Wed, Apr 18 at 5:34pm
                          Re: Спустим все же на землю - Dmtr on Thu, Apr 19 at 02:43am
                  про шорты и про брокеров - Сг on Wed, Apr 18 at 01:17am
                    Re: про шорты и про брокеров - Bell on Wed, Apr 18 at 06:31am
                      и чего спорим :-) наверное хотца - Сг on Thu, Apr 19 at 01:21am
                        Re: и чего спорим :-) наверное хотца - Bell on Thu, Apr 19 at 06:38am
          Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Mon, Apr 16 at 8:31pm
            волатильность и аналитика - Сг on Wed, Apr 18 at 01:42am
              Re: волатильность и аналитика - Bell on Wed, Apr 18 at 05:48am
            Re: Спустим все же на землю - Yug on Tue, Apr 17 at 04:58am
              просто - Сг on Wed, Apr 18 at 01:24am
              Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Tue, Apr 17 at 05:12am
                жаль что на остальные вопросы ответов нет (-) - Yug on Tue, Apr 17 at 08:00am
                  Re: посмотрите, напр. в архиве (+) - Bell on Tue, Apr 17 at 1:21pm
                    Re: На землю спустились - что видим? - Игорь on Wed, Apr 18 at 11:36am
                      Игорю - Сг on Thu, Apr 19 at 01:44am
                        Re: Следите за институционалами - Игорь on Fri, Apr 20 at 11:07am
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Игорь - Fri Apr 20 11:07:22 2001 on 987779242
                          Re: Следите за институционалами - малоопытный on Fri, Apr 20 at 11:28am
                            малоопытному - Сг on Sun, Apr 22 at 02:34am


 




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