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Re: Спустим все же на землю



Написано Bell | Mon, Apr 16 at 8:31pm:

В ответ на: Re: Спустим все же на землю posted by Игорь on Mon, Apr 16 at 4:15pm:

Массовая психология важна, но впечатление такое, что сейчас эти массы покинули рынок. Насливались и в лонг и в шорт и разошлись по своим рабочим местам. Гадать где дно, где value, как правильно реагировать на отчеты в меняющихся условиях - они устали, нет на это средств и не могут бесконечно - они ведь последние полгода занимались только этим и безуспешно. Конторским хайперам морочить особо некого кроме самих себя, а их реальные аналитические способности представляются мне нулевыми. Хороший рыболов рыбу прикармливает и водоемы изучает, а они больше норовят динамитом в ванне. Доигрались на свою голову, и будет приятно, если это выведет их из игры надолго :-) mavery присылал фотографию http://jinnee.zmail.ru/pic.jpg Я думаю, что дядечки такого типа ("инвестиционно-консервативного") выходят сейчас на рынок и будут пользоваться спросом и останутся на нем хозяевами долго (возможно, годы), заменив голых "королей интернета". Неторопливые, трезво мыслящие, простые. Так что я надеюсь, что рынок станет поспокойней, почище и менее истеричным. На фундаментальные показатели экономики и секторов они наверняка смотрят внимательно и непредвзято, и это будет играть роль. Что касается текущей ситуации, рынок действительно развернулся, как и предполагали пару-тройку недель назад те, кто что-то смыслит.... Сейчас разворот представляется закрепившимся, т.к. было follow through. Мне кажется, что у рынка в целом не очень большой апсайд. Еще хватает бумажек, которым надо слиться до их настоящих цен. Многие из тех, к чьему мнению я прислушиваюсь, из основных сценариев сейчас рассматривают не столько сильный рост, сколько попытку ретеста последнего лоу в обозримом времени (от 1 недели до 2-х месяцев). Я понемногу строюсь в лонг, но не упускаю случаев прикрыться в шорт всякой туфтой, которая хорошо валится.

Удачи. Александр.

Игорь говорит, что,

: все же пережрали... Коротких позиций открыто так
: много, что появляется страх - а удастся ли их
: быстро закрыть, если рынок действительно пойдет
: вверх. Вот и суетятся косолапые.
:
: Что касается фундаментальных показателей
: экономики, то значение будут иметь вовсе не они.
: Значение будет иметь массовая психология.
: Вспомните, как вел себя рынок в августе-октябре
: прошлого года. Десять компаний представляют
: нормальные отчеты и лишь одна сообщает о снижении
: показателей. В результате весь рынок катится вниз.


Все ответы
мрачности на светлом фоне - Сг on Sun, Apr 15 at 11:13am
  Re: мрачности на светлом фоне - VIVA on Mon, Apr 16 at 06:43am
  Ай да Моцарт, ай да сукин сын - Пушкин on Sun, Apr 15 at 4:58pm
    Re: Ай да Моцарт, ай да сукин сын - Очевидец on Sun, Apr 15 at 6:23pm
      Re: эк, вас, робяты, унесло-то -) - Сг on Mon, Apr 16 at 02:24am
        Re: Спустим все же на землю - Игорь on Mon, Apr 16 at 4:15pm
          Re: Спустим все же на землю - Петrович on Tue, Apr 17 at 05:54am
            Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Tue, Apr 17 at 06:24am
              Re: Спустим все же на землю - Петrович on Tue, Apr 17 at 07:17am
                Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Tue, Apr 17 at 08:14am
                  Re: Спустим все же на землю - Dmtr on Wed, Apr 18 at 05:15am
                    Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Wed, Apr 18 at 07:25am
                      Re: Спустим все же на землю - Dmtr on Wed, Apr 18 at 09:08am
                        Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Wed, Apr 18 at 5:34pm
                          Re: Спустим все же на землю - Dmtr on Thu, Apr 19 at 02:43am
                  про шорты и про брокеров - Сг on Wed, Apr 18 at 01:17am
                    Re: про шорты и про брокеров - Bell on Wed, Apr 18 at 06:31am
                      и чего спорим :-) наверное хотца - Сг on Thu, Apr 19 at 01:21am
                        Re: и чего спорим :-) наверное хотца - Bell on Thu, Apr 19 at 06:38am
          Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Mon, Apr 16 at 8:31pm
            волатильность и аналитика - Сг on Wed, Apr 18 at 01:42am
              Re: волатильность и аналитика - Bell on Wed, Apr 18 at 05:48am
            Re: Спустим все же на землю - Yug on Tue, Apr 17 at 04:58am
              просто - Сг on Wed, Apr 18 at 01:24am
              Re: Спустим все же на землю - Bell on Tue, Apr 17 at 05:12am
                жаль что на остальные вопросы ответов нет (-) - Yug on Tue, Apr 17 at 08:00am
                  Re: посмотрите, напр. в архиве (+) - Bell on Tue, Apr 17 at 1:21pm
                    Re: На землю спустились - что видим? - Игорь on Wed, Apr 18 at 11:36am
                      Игорю - Сг on Thu, Apr 19 at 01:44am
                        Re: Следите за институционалами - Игорь on Fri, Apr 20 at 11:07am
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Игорь - Fri Apr 20 11:07:22 2001 on 987779242
                          Re: Следите за институционалами - малоопытный on Fri, Apr 20 at 11:28am
                            малоопытному - Сг on Sun, Apr 22 at 02:34am


 




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